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Friesian horses in the stable


 
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juul
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Friesian horses in the stable Reply with quote

We are breeding Friesian Horses. We had 2 'standard' analog colorcamera's to observe the horses while in the stable. Due to a lightning strike the camera's broke down.
Now we want to replace them and discussed whether to replace them with:

a) new analog camera's (connected by coaxcable from stable to house distance about 100 metres) or

b) install (wireless) IP camera's.

Selection a) is the most easy choice, but the vision is limited, is mostly gives an overview of all the horses, but there's no ability to see the horses individually. (and I'd think with the newest digital connections/camera's analog viewing is out of time).

Selection b) requires more effort probably. There is no telephoneline/adsl connection in the stable yet; in the mainbuilding there is though.
But with some effort I could install ADSL.
There is no need to record the images.
Low illumination vision would be interesting
I have gathered some information on PTZ camera's and that seems very interesting.
Can anybody give suggestions what to choose?
Our budget is about 2.000 or $ 2.750
Thank you!
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Mr Sots
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Juul

How big are the stables you keep the horses in?

What's the temperature range like (day/night winter/summer)? - in case you need a housing.

Do you require night time vision?

Wireless isn't as complicated as you might think provided you have a reasonable line of site to the stables however, at 100M you could even run a network cable in place of the coaxial cabling (just remember to add some surge protection in case of lightening).

Loads of good cameras on the market, depending on your requirement you should have plenty in your budget.
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juul
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Friesian Horses Reply with quote

The stable is 36 x 11 metres, with 19 separate boxes (approx 4 x 3,5 metres)
It is an opentop-roofed stable so inside is like outside minus 2 or 3 degrees (no rain and no wind), lets say -20 to +35 Celsius
Nightvision is not nescessary.
Is there a difference between IP-camera and network-camera?
PTZ-camera's seem very interesting....
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Mr Sots
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IP cameras are the same thing as a network camera.

Because of the temperature fluctuations, I would advise putting any camera in a heated housing. One that could be worth considering would be the Axis 215PTZ which is quite a new model but at a very good price. I'm sure you could find it but the product detail can be viewed here: http://www.axis.com/products/cam_215/index.htm

The 12X optical zoom should allow you to see each end of the stable clearly if the camera is mounted centrally, just be aware of the viewing angle from the camera to each box.

The camera does have an automatic IR filter for night time viewing but without additional IR lighting you're not going to see much in the dark but it's there for the future and probably available within budget now.

To set up a wireless link, you'll need two access points configured as a bridge with directional antennae's, pretty simple to configure if you have any experiendce of wireless networks? Or provided the distance is <100M you can run ethernet cable in place of the co-axial, just remember to put a surge protector both ends in case of future lightening strikes!

Hope this helps?
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eltot91
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please... see http://www.comunitybox.com Is exactly what you are looking for
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Juul,
If you need to setup a wireless camera outside you can try the system we just ordered. It is a network IP camera but it's in a standard outside enclosure. Can't tell you how it works yet, but I can after it arrives. You can check out the camera at www.wirelessoutdoorcam.com and see if it does what you need.
-Geo
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juul,
Sorry forgot to get back with you. We got the cameras and installed both the wireless fixed versions and PTZ wireless models and they're awesome. The picture is very clear, they worked great on the wireless network, so much that we had to use of the the wireless cameras as the wireless access point for the other cameras so we could get furthor out with the cameras.
-Geo
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