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Is 4xEM IPCAMWLPTZ (wireless cam with 10x zoom) reliable?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mogo - What IR distance are you looking for? I belive there are some PTZ cameras with IR but I don't beleive the range is great. How far will you need to view?

You should be able to get a large IR illuminator and then an IR lens. I have heard of people doing this but I don't know how well it worked.

I will try to get my hands on some IR equipment and do a few tests.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wes thanks.

I think I was reading the limiting factor on range is related to IR Illumination. Most quote 10 meters for cameras that have a set of illuminators, but I have seen large illuminators that can allow a camera to see several hundred feet.

In my case the garden will be starting at 40 ft from the camera and uphill 100 feet.

I will see if I can find the links I mentioned.

Edit: Here is a link to some. http://www.security-cameras-cctv.com/accessories-infrared-illuminators-c-4_19-pg-1-srt-2a.html?gclid=CIbmx-H3hYkCFShjVAod92F_iA
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thos illuminators should do the trick. I noticed they only have ones that go up to 60ft. You would need something strong or even a few of those.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Rebooting DCS-6620G Reply with quote

Wes wrote:
...its a shame there is no way to do a soft reset on the [4xEM IPCAMWLPTZ] camera. One way to get around it (if you can connect to the camera) is go to the network configuration section and just click save. It will cause the camera to reboot. ...


I found that the very similar D-Link DCS-6620G is reluctant to do a full boot. For me, the above method often did not cause the camera to go through its mechanical re-centreing procedure. Similarly, even turning the mains voltage power off did not reliably achieve that whereas actually unplugging the 12V power plug from the camera did - I suspect that the 12V power supply's capacitors provide residual voltage for a long time. (My camera's mains supply is switched off by a time switch for an interval every 24hours).

Here's a "software" method which works for me. In the internet browser address bar enter e.g.
http://999.45.69.7:80/cgi-bin/admin/setparam.cgi?system_reset=5
(where 999.45.69.7 is the camera's ip address & 80 is the port and 5 is the number of seconds 'til reboot). I set this up as a "favorite". You may be asked for the user/password.

For the URL Commands of the Network Camera see p65 of http://www.vivotek.com/download/usermanual/pz61x4manual.zip
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have this

> Factory default
Factory default
Restore factory settings and lose any changes?
System will restart and need installer program to setup network.


Calibrate
Recalibrate the home position to the default center to recover the tolerance caused by some external forces.

here?

http://192.168.6.66/setup/factory.vspx

I've not had to restart it (no, I don't mean do a factory default), but I've calibrated a few times.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spymasterflash wrote:
You don't have this

> Factory default ...
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Yes, but I don't want to reset to the factory defaults, just to "my" defaults - sometimes the system appears to become unresponsive to commands and unplugging the 12V supply, waiting (say) 3 minutes and re-plugging seems to fix it. So I needed a remote re-boot procedure which achieved the same effect. The procedure I mentioned does not (for my system) to go as far as resetting to factory defaults. What it does achieve appears to be identical with unplugging the 12V plug from the camera, waiting (say) 3 minutes and then replugging the 12V supply; the re-centreing behaviour is one aspect of that.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lapimate wrote:
Yes, but I don't want to reset to the factory defaults

Quote a whole lot more and you would not have missed:

...(no, I don't mean do a factory default)...

This was in reference to the point you were saying of having to restart the camera because:

lapimate wrote:
For me, the above method often did not cause the camera to go through its mechanical re-centreing procedure.


That is what the calibrate does (which is on the cam-server page html link I pasted). It recenters, however that's spelled. Well, it sort of recenters. I find that presets don't always go exactly where I have them set, not long zoomed ones, anyway. I will see if I can somehow make that better, eventually. What I do now is move to another preset first, then the long zoom. Often it's correct. Not always dead on.

To the NEW point of unresponsive, I find that in a long zoom, the pan/tilt often won't, pan or tilt. I have to zoom back out, PT, then back in. I think I've mentioned this before, the PT control via the browser is poor for this camera (poor, but wicked-fast). But that's true in general for browser-controlled anything, if you were to ask me.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Rebooting DCS-6620G Reply with quote

lapimate wrote:
... Here's a "software" method which works for me. In the internet browser address bar enter e.g.
http://999.45.69.7:80/cgi-bin/admin/setparam.cgi?system_reset=5 ...


"works for me" may not be always unfortunately - I've just had a situation where I could log on to the camera which presented an (unfocused) image and apparently would not respond to any commands I tried, including the above.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spymasterflash wrote:
... I find that in a long zoom, the pan/tilt often won't, pan or tilt. I have to zoom back out, PT, then back in. ...


Do you find this workaround always works? Have you any other method for restoring the functionality remotely if the camera stops responding to commands? My experience with DCS-6620G is that it can get locked in 10x zoom and then not respond to any other commands I've tried. Even switching the mains power off/on it remains in the same 10x zoom and unresponsive state though still transmitting video.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not had to reset it as far as I remember so yes, that is true that it always works (here), but I don't have the dlink but rather a level one (fcs-1040) version, which is the same hardware as the 4xem and the (oem?) vivotek. These are pretty close INSIDE to the dlink 6600 you have. Mine is ethernet only, not +radio. I don't use radio for any of mine (lots and lots of cable overhead and switches and mATX power supplies for 5 and 12V power). I think the only radios I have (radios off) are the 207w and 207mw. Yup.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spymasterflash wrote:
...so yes, that is true that it always works (here), ...


Thanks. I'll try putting a timeswitch-controlled relay in the 12V line, see if that kicks the DCS-6620G into full re-boot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that this thread has gone on for almost 2 years, and it's very helpful. I wonder if anyone has any updated/new information to share about the 4XEM wireless IPCAMWLPTZ camera? Etalk was writing a lot about it (are you still reading this?).

Also, anyone know if the security settings have improved on that 4XEM model so that security does not need to be reduced on internet browsers in order to use the camera remotely?

Thanks for any additional info,
Chris
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am looking to get the 4xem wireless IPCAMWLPTZ Camera however I am planing on using it outdoors and using the outdoor housing.

I do have a few questions if anyone is still around?

Has anyone used the IPCAMWLPTZ wirelessly with the OutDoor Dome - Heat and Cooling Enclosure? Just was wondering if the Wireless works and if it is stable?

Has 4xem fixed haveing to lower the active x settings?

I am planning on using this camera at our Cottage in Northern Michigan and accessing the Camera in Ohio, about 7 hours away? is this camera stable, from what I am reading people are having to reset alot? Can this be done over the IP or do I have to hit a button on Camera or just unplug?

Anyhow hope this is still active and anyone is able to help out. thanks in advance
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