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IPGuy Regular Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: Multiple Network cameras on an IP Address |
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Hey There,
Quick question,
Is it possible to broadcast multiple cams (let's say 10) on one public IP Address? If so how is this done? I know port 80 usually has to be forwarded, so if you are only using this one port how do you forward the other 9 cameras?
Also, what network devices would you recommend for a high speed network.
I was thinking.
1) Motorola Cable Modem
2) D Link Router
3) D Link Switch
Thanks for any advice.
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Dwayne Enthusiast
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 335
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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You can do that by setting up your router do port mapping:
route eg port 8000 to the internal ip of camera 1 (you can even route it to port 80 of the cam)
route port 8001 to the internal ip of camera 2 etc..
externally you have to call your cameras by different ports:
cam1 eg 92.145.23.2:8001
cam2 eg 92.145.23.2:8002 etc
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IPGuy Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, is there a limit to how many cameras can be broadcasted from one IP>
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ICUSecurity Enthusiast
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 328
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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The limit is set in your router. However chances are if its a cable modem, the limitation will be bandwidth rather the router OS issues.
-Chris _________________ For Sale
32 Aimetis Standard Channel - $90 ea
OR buy with servers (Dell) and save!!
4 Channel Video-Insight Software - $350
8 Channel Video-Insight Capture Card - 1,000
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IPGuy Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Okay,
ABOUT, how many cameras will max out on a modem considering bandwith.
Also what range of ports can I use on a D Link router for multiple cameras?
I THANK YOU FOR YOU HELP!
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Dwayne Enthusiast
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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theoretically you can use all ports from 1 - 65000 (plus a few hundred)
If you really want to transmit ALL cameras availabe through one internet connection AT ONE TIME of course your bandwith depends on picture size, frames per second , compression and so on.
I recommend you set up a server the place with surveillance software which records on motion, and sends you an email when motion is detected somewhere
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ICUSecurity Enthusiast
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: |
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There is much better ways to do this, many cameras have motion detection built right into the camera. Utilizing that will save you a ton of bandwidth if it is impossible to have a local server.
Remember, cameras that can stream mjpeg can be converted ton on2 on the fly. By converting a stream to on2 and going to a Adobe SMS you are now talking about bps rather then kbps.
btw.. the above mentioned solution is my current independent study for grad school, so if anyone is willing to help out =)
-Chris _________________ For Sale
32 Aimetis Standard Channel - $90 ea
OR buy with servers (Dell) and save!!
4 Channel Video-Insight Software - $350
8 Channel Video-Insight Capture Card - 1,000
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IPGuy Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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When you say local server, you mean the computer that has the recording software on it, right?
I will have a computer setup with software (probably the axis software) unless you have a better suggestion.
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user1 Assistant
Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 90
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Did you mention what type of connection you are using? _________________ Ryan
www.controlbynet.com
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IPGuy Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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DSL, possibly cable.
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ICUSecurity Enthusiast
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Ok, lets say... You have a 5mbps DSL pipe..
10 cameras at 512kbps = 5120
See the problem?
However most Server Solutions are able to compress the video streams to transmit them better.
For example I am currently working on a 250 camera install. Now they have 3 T1's going into their business but there is no possible way that they are going to allow me to eat up almost all of their bandwidth for the camera system.
So I installed a nice little rack system, hosted 50 cameras per server (its running advanced analytics on specific channels, and while bandwidth wasnt an issue, processor speed was) and networked them all together.
Every group of 25 cameras is on its own wireless link, running at 30 frames a second.
The business has 8 locations across the USA, and we just finished our 2nd. From central office management can pull up any camera at any time from any location in any order. So for example if they want to see every front door of every location they can. Or if they want to see every pump bay at a given time, they can.
The software we use changes the format of the video from a large bulk file into a much faster streamlined file, allowing the connection from remote to occur.
So in short, to answer your question, when you apply software, such as a NVR, the rules of streaming video change a little. You are no longer forwarding ports, but rather viewing a server that is pulling and streaming the video for you.
-Chris _________________ For Sale
32 Aimetis Standard Channel - $90 ea
OR buy with servers (Dell) and save!!
4 Channel Video-Insight Software - $350
8 Channel Video-Insight Capture Card - 1,000
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Dwayne Enthusiast
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| IPGuy wrote: | When you say local server, you mean the computer that has the recording software on it, right?
I will have a computer setup with software (probably the axis software) unless you have a better suggestion. |
Exactly that I mean. So do you plan to set up your computer within the same lan as the cameras, or do you want to set it up remote, and stream all cameras to the computer through your providers connection, and if so, why?
I personally (only me, without meaning any disrespect to anyone who thinks to know it better) would set it up within the lan, and remotely access the computer if there is need to.
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IPGuy Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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It would be recording locally, but I would want to be able to view the cameras from remote locations for monitoring purposes.
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Dwayne Enthusiast
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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There are many different software types on the market which all allow remote access through the web. I personally use blueiris (www.blueirissoftware.com) - I know there is better software, more professional, etc etc, I simply tell what I do use (saying that for preventing other users complaining I would recommend unprofessional solutions) but it is worth checking it out.
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