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Dwayne
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Iris Software released today Version 2.10.09 - this Version fully supports the Y-Cam Black and White.

I will setup a Y-Cam together with Blue Iris and let you know of the Results in a couple of days.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dwayne,

Thanks for your post.

I'm sure a lot of people on this forum will be looking forward to viewing a demo. I have seen it work and Blue Iris is a very nice piece of software at a very good price.

Thanks for your continued support.
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Dwayne
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After testing the Y-Cam with Blue Iris for a couple of days I decided to replace a malfunction camera in my setup with the Y-Cam Black.

I use a normal housing, and the Y-cam actually wouldn't fit in there, so I had to do a bit of change to the camera to make it fit in the housing (nothing what wouldn't be changed back again)

After that I changed the settings in blue Iris of that camera to the y-cam driver and settings.

However blue Iris kept loosing the connection to the camera every 30 seconds.

At this time it was a wlan connection, less than 5m to the access point.

For testing I attached a lan cable to the cam, but it still kept loosing its connection, so I went through all settings again, after all it worked fine as long as it was placed in my office.

I finally found out that the frames per second were still set to 5 frames as I used it with my old camera, and I set it up to 25. Then I had no network drops at all, even after I went back to wlan.

If someone is intrested in how I made the y-cam fit in the normal housing please leave me a pm.
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Dwayne
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So meanwhile I replaced all but 2 cameras with y-cams and I am pretty satisfied. At one spot I added an 130 ir led spot light, because I wanted to catch those unwanted visitors who leave their stuff there...

well last night I was "lucky"

(do not watch this if you do not want to see 2 male in action and this might not suitible for office)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMIdaa2uCo
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Bigg
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Nice clip !
I can see datails, which is not possible with the camera I bought... (Gadspot IR 4000 NC).
I only bought it because it has GPIO (general purpose input/out), that I needed to turn the light on and off. (And was quite inexpensive)
But at night this camera does not take pictures neither in IR mode nor in day mode with the light turned on. It's not sensitive enough. As I can see in the clip, this is possible with Y-cam. This camera would be quite good except one thing - it does not have a gpio.

So my question is: do you know any inexpensive gpio solution? In my opinion it should cost about the cost of a network card - and I can find only solutions that are 50 times more expensive...

Another question: Can you tell me how much load blue iris soft puts on the computer's processor in motiion detection mode? As I understand all of your cameras are connected to one computer and all are in motiion detection mode? I can't check it with my camera now... it's in remote site.

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Bigg
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Dwayne
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

first of all: y-cam does not take the full credit for this. I have an additonal IR spotlight with 130 IR leds placed there.

You can work with blue iris and remote cameras too. That is no problem, even if you have to use a DDNS. You simply enter this address as camera adress in the settings. I tried that with various demo cameras, including motion control recording. The motion detection is made within blue iris, not the camera. I still have one 4000 and one 4050 running through blue iris, responding fine on motion detection.

For a GS 4000 cam, however, you need the latest firmware, if you don't have it already - be aware that the manual contrast, colour etc settings are gone when you update your cam. Some considered it a step back.

If you need simply to turn on light on movement, just get a spotlight with own motion sensor. I used that for other cameras. You can get those for less than €20, and if you just get an motion detector switch for an excisting light it is even cheaper.

if the motion sensor of the lamp is triggered the sudden light change will trigger the camera motion sensor (or that within Blue Iris)

I am running now 6 cameras on BI on a double processor machine on Win2K Server with motion detection running on all cameras and I am below 5% CPU usage (no recording though at that time)
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Bigg
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dwayne wrote:

If you need simply to turn on light on movement, just get a spotlight with own motion sensor. I used that for other cameras. You can get those for less than €20, and if you just get an motion detector switch for an excisting light it is even cheaper.

if the motion sensor of the lamp is triggered the sudden light change will trigger the camera motion sensor (or that within Blue Iris)


And that is exactly what I want to do - turn on the light when the IR motion detector detects motion. I saw this solution in factory monitoring.

And I can see that Y-cam can record details when there is almost no light.
IR reflector is visible, but it's range is limited, so I guess I can savely assume that it has no influence on the picture surrounding the spot (Or does it?).

Why do I need GPIO? During the work hours the light should not turn on, as it should not during the day.
I also found out that after sunny day there are drafts of hot air, which trigger the motion sensor. So I can use Gpio to control lights and motion detectors - I need at least one input and one output per camera.

I would also like to turn on sirens remotely if I see something suspicious, or maybe I could use a camera with that two-way audio.

I can also use as monitoring device those magnet sensors in window frames... but these also do not have computer interface, what could also be easily changed by using GPIO interface.

As a last resort I could put there old computers and connect these sensors to parallel (LPT) port directly, but 1. I'd need three computers (at least - three facilities), 2. wires would have to be long anyway (danger of lightning). And when it is all in one ethernet cable, I can use router with opto-isolation.
I have to use ethernet cable, because those facilities are made of metal sheets.

There will have to be maybe even 20 cameras, so these have to be inexpensive.
I also have idea to buy some cheap cameras with gpio (like gadspot) and hook them up with more decent cameras like y-cam and use gpio in gadspot for all cameras.

So this is a complete description of my problems...
If anyone has a good solution of this all, please let me know.
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Dwayne
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an Update:

All cameras in my company are now replaced by y-cam black. I am currently running 6 cameras constantly plus cameras I set up now and then if there is need to.

I sticked to Blue Iris as Surveillance Software and I am absolutly satisfied.

It takes me about 5 to 10 minuntes every morning to go through the recordings, to filter out triggered recordings through cats, passing cars' lights etc.

Now and then there is a car parking at our lot, but people seemed to have recognized they are being recorded, and the night happenings reduced massivly.

I will post pictures of the cameras themselves later.

Dwayne aka Wolfgang
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