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zenwyrm
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: another looking for advice post Reply with quote

Hello.

I have recently been dealing with young hoodlums in my apartment complex getting into my garage late at night and taking things from me. (They take work truck keys that they can't get to, but don't drive off with my caddy that has the keys in it).

What I have:

Wireless router that allows my wife's macbook to connect at the farthest distance where the camera would be.

What I need

A wireless camera (or maybe two) that I can remotly command from my pc.
Preferably cellphone notification when the camera is activated
motion activation
no light/extremely low light high quality color video and picture capture.
I need to be able to catch video/pcitures of the culprites with a clear enough picture that can identify them.
What I want:
Some form of video/photo verification (such as water marking).
remote control with zoom/tilt/pan

I prefer to spend no more than 500 dollars, but will if I know I can get a product that will do what I need it to do. There are so many reviews and products out there that I'm not sure which product to go for. So if anyone has first hand knowledge of a product that would feet my needs and wants, please let me know.
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Roger
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, I like your list and especially the price-range.
Now I wonder why I spend almost $2000.- and still not have all the criteria you listed, especially the crystal clear mugshot. Very Happy
I hope myself for a education and somebody replies with this cheap, perfect camera and all the items listed you are asking. Very Happy
I also admit I am not a alarm specialist and the camera is just a in the meantime expensive hobby.
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zenwyrm
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your sarcastic response which offered no information what so ever, though unapreciated and unhelpful, no doubt gave you a chance to chuckle. I am glad that I could provide some form of entertainment for you in your otherwise dull, dreary and boarding life. Very Happy
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kymberm
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Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: camera Reply with quote

Ijust bought the IKwb11a. I think the ikwb01a is inside only, the 11a is an inside/outside type. You can change the shutterspeed and other configuration settings. Another one for inside only is the dlink 6600w, i have the 5300w and it's got all the notifications, motion sensor (as does the toshiba ikwb11a) and ftp/email of images.
The only issue you might have with the wireless is degraded signal if there is a metal building or thick wood. I haven't seen any issues with mine though. I bought the toshiba for 400 on ebay.
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Roger
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry zenwyrm, I admit I got a chuckle out of it. But I think you where asking for it.
Also in this forum are members that are really good with the subject and way ahead of myself.
If you would have read much more in all the section of this forum first you would have realized it is not that easy and cheap what you want. even tough prices are falling relative fast.
Second step would have been to google websites with the pictures and see for yourself what people are really getting out of there cameras, especially at night. Some website links are posted right in this forum. Since you have the special criteria for mugshots you have to visit websites where you can steer the cameras, go to this sites at night and see what you can get and then you know if it meets your criteria.
My very first camera was a chinese PTZ for 600 dollar and I wasted my money for it and decided after that, I go for the higher end cameras. In the end I got a Sony ($1800.- total with IR lamps) for a friend of mine and a panasonic 202a for myself.
The picture on the panasonic beats the picture from the sony hands down but the sony has other stuff I wish the panasonic has. (Memorystick SDHC, not just SD)
Sony was very important for nighttime surveillance because of gasoline problems, but hmmmm in the end if somebody unknown is going to steal I don't think the pics would be good enough to identify them (about 40ft distance). Picture is black/white with the IR lamps since not enough regular light exists. In daytime you can zoom in and watch and read what somebody is writing on a piece of paper with regular handwriting.
JVC is a camera used by banks.
I researched in my dull dreary boarding??? life for a few month, wasted a few hundred dollar on a useless camera, spend a few days to setup, change test, scrap it all start research again buy new start testing again, mount camera in different places and now?, I know I am still not finished with it. Very Happy
So this is my hobby experience with IP cameras so far, hopefully this info is more what you are looking for.
Yet, I still have fun with it. BTW I still check this forum and read old posts to learn more, especially the best way to upload to the internet since bandwith is my sticky point now. I let friends go to my router and they just killed my own UL/DL, I had to disconnect them. So, yes, in my dreary dull life there is still some kicking in it (hmmm, maybe it is just spasm Very Happy )
Have fun Roger
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Roger
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, 1 thing I did not say, both cameras are hardwired and not wireless. I could get a transmitter box and convert to wireless but now you are talking more money. Since there was no need for wireless I believe hardwired will give the better picture in the end probably even more so at night but then I don't have the experience with wireless cameras. This was also a discussion in this forum, I think the jury is still out there on the wireless point. Meaning some say no problem at all, others disagree. Shocked Roger
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's double your price range but our construction forman really likes this wireless outdoor PTZ IP network camera system we just got. http://www.wirelessoutdoorcam.com/product.sc?categoryId=1&productId=9 He says he really likes the ability to move it around and zoom in on things from far away. It said it takes a little getting used to the wireless latency delay but once you get used to it, it's easy to work with. I only get to set it up in the office so I don't have a lot of hands on experience with it yet. But it was fun to play around with.
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And there were a few different cameras to pick from also which I thought was different.
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