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Are there any true W i r e l e s s cameras out there?


 
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alittle1
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Are there any true W i r e l e s s cameras out there? Reply with quote

I did a search for " wireless outdoor ip camera" and could find nothing truly wireless out of 220,000 hits. (No, I didn't look at every one, just the first 10 pages!) Will there ever be such a thing?
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done the same search quite a few times and I actually did click thru most of the 1st 10 pages of google and a few other search engins looking for them. They are there but I found only a couple that were under $1000 and that were truely 802.11 based. They were www.Skywaysecurity.com and www.wirelessoutdoorcam.com. And there was a www.dotz.com a bit more expensive and a dome but I couldn't find it the last time I looked. TRy searching for "wireless outdoor network camera" and you should get a few better hits. But you'll mostly get pages that have wireed outdoor camers and wireless indoor cameras thus matching all the key words.
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cglaeser
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Axis makes outdoor IP wireless Reply with quote

See the Axis 211W with outdoor enclosure.

http://www.axis.com/products/cam_211w/index.htm

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Christopher
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much is the whole AXIS 211W outdoor bundle? I had gotten a quote from a company and they said the fixed wireless outdoor camera was $700 for the camera and then another $500 for the specialized outdoor housing. If not where can you get it cheaper?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a frequent shopper at buy.com and that's were I purchased my Axis cameras. I just checked and they are selling the 211W for $678.

Axis makes the cameras, but they do not make the enclosures. Enclosures with an Axis label are probably marked up, so you may want to purchase from the company that actually makes them. Videolarm.com has an enclosure selector that can match makes and models.

Also, depending on where you live, you may or may not need a heater and blower. I live in the bay area and do not need them, and saved quite a bit by getting an enclosure without them.

I have the 223M and 207MW. Both are excellent cameras for what they are designed to do. The 207MW is indoor daylight only, but the wireless has worked extremely well thus far. Each camera has a complete computer on a chip, with lots of features. Hence, the price tags that match, but still a good value.

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Christopher
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info on the Axis camera. Can the Axis camera be used outside via wireless without an enclosure/housing?
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cglaeser
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geolt3 wrote:
Can the Axis camera be used outside via wireless without an enclosure/housing?


No. You must use an enclosure outdoors. I purchased a Videolarm enclosure for the 223M from a local distributor for $150. I think the same enclosure can be used for the 211W if you run a cable to a co-located antenna.

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Christopher
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geolt3
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean co-located antenna? Does the enclosure have an antenna on it? And if so how do I match up the connectors for the antennas?
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Ming
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cglaeser
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geolt3 wrote:
What do you mean co-located antenna? Does the enclosure have an antenna on it? And if so how do I match up the connectors for the antennas?


The enclosure is typically metal and typically lacks the height for even a short vertical antenna. For these reasons, the antenna is usually mounted outside the enclosure. There are a couple ways to do this. One is to mount the antenna on the top of the enclosure through a small hole in the top, or mount the antenna on the building next to the enclosure (co-located). The second option is commonly done for larger high-gain antennas.

The Axis website has some useful data sheets and manuals. Here is one that will be helpful. See http://www.axis.com/files/datasheet/ds_211W_housing_29892_en_0709.pdf

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Christopher
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christopher, Thanks fo rthe info. The housing looks nice and the Axix cameras have pretty good reviews but I googled the housing part number and the cheapest I could find it for was around $450 then when you add the camera price on it starts getting up there in price for a fixed/non-PTZ system. Do you know of a less expensive place to purchase them both?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

geolt3 wrote:
Do you know of a less expensive place to purchase them both?


I purchased a Videolarm housing (without fan or heater) from a local distributor (remoteviewsecurity.com) for $154 plus tax. Relabeling (with markup) is common practice, so you will save money if you can get the OEM version. Mine has the Videolarm label and I believe they actually make them, but you can get the exact same enclosure with other labels and pay more. Contact Videolarm and ask for distributors in your area.

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Christopher
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