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Time Lapse outside #newbie

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djoh
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Time Lapse outside #newbie Reply with quote

Hello all,

I'm completely new to the world of network cameras, I have a simple requirement.
I would like to make a time lapse movie of a construction site, for a period of 2 years. The camera would be on the outside.
Wide angle would be a must.

Now I don't know, does it do live broadcasting on a website like built-in ? I've seen some ready-made solutions for construction company, but I'd prefer to get my hands dirty with a cheaper one and do whatever I want with it.

I don't mind using an external website.

Thanks a lot for your help !
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please ?

I'm only getting very expensive quotation for all-included package...
Thx
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itsokrelax
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get an Axis 223M and set up the camera to FTP images every so often. What kind of budget do you have?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no defined budget yet, as we have no idea how much it could cost.

Will the Axis 223M support the 50 degrees celsius under the sun of Abu Dhabi ? The camera would be fixed on the outside of the office and should not break for 2 years...

Moreover, 2 megapixel seems too low...

Thanks for your advice
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well hell big dog if 2.0MP is too low for you I like your style. How far away will the camera be from the site and how wide is the site?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
I don't want to record movie nor have live view of the site, I just want to take few pictures every day.
Then at the end, I'll combine all those pictures to make a time lapse movie.

The bridge is 1 kilometer long, crossing the sea. I won't be able to put a camera in there, it needs to be on the sand.

Hence the sufficient quality of the captor !
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.avigilon.com/products/guide/

Check out their sample footage. Buy one and come back here and give a review Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which price should I expect for this kind of product ?
And for an axis 223m ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about the one I listed above.

Around $1500 for the Axis 223M and housing.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helpful guys,

We'll probably go for the 223M.
I got some service quotation for storing the pictures and making the movie at the end of the project.

But the thing is, I'm working in IT, I don't think it's worth paying 90 USD a month just to get a server saving a pic every hour or so.
If you have configured something like that before, do you think it will be feasible ?

I just want the camera to be accessible through browser, and to save a picture every hour. For the coming 2 years.

Thanks again !
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will need a custom script and an FTP server. You could pay someone for the script and host your own FTP server. That could save you some money.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, itsokrelaxdon'tdoitwhenyouwanttogotoit, I think I'll even do the script myself !

I'm still in contact with Avigilon, let's see if I can get a high spec camera approved...

Regards,
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend filezilla for the FTP server. Very easy to use.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have someone on the site build a camera mount. Get a typical still camera. Get several. Hand them out around the office. Have everyone at the office shoot the site when they please, or when something interesting is happening, Have a white board to track how many shots a day, and by whom, if you care. I think the staff would like the idea, too.

Over two years, that's several hundred Multi-MEGApixel shots, even if only one or two shots a day (or night, even). Play back at one shot/frame per second, and that's 10 minutes plus. And the image quality of these cameras, even if they were the cheapest you could likely buy, would be far better than the best IP camera you could buy.

Having a camera mount outside (or even inside) is ideal, but you could train the staff (or just yourself) to key the frame on landmarks. Stitch, pan. edit, assemble the frames as you go, so you can change plans if you need to. Making a movie strip from jpeg images is trivial, and simple to edit, and just as trivial to load on a web site (time-lapse hardly needs to be up-to-the-minute 'current'). Low tech -- any dummy can do it, at least the shooting part.

That's how I'd do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: an idea Reply with quote

Hi...
What I would do...
Is get few Canon cameras.. maybe even used once from ebay.. Should be cheap.. something like 5 to 7 megapixel. Any Canon SD or DIGITAL ELPH DIGITAL would do...

install
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK
check list of Supported Cameras before you get anything

This will do the job, plus will have high quality images in resolution that most of CCTV cameras cant compete. Plus it will be cheaper, and can get more of them..

Samples:
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Samples:_Timelapse_movies
even can get / create scripts for advance options..
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