Advice needed :: Installation in the Ship Yard (overseas)

[ryeporta]

Hi .. I got an request to design something in a shipyard and would like to seek some advise.


All dimensions in mm (1000mm = 1m = 3.3ft)

Scenario:
It is a shipyard where the client wanna monitor the fabrication yard. They wanted to have 3 outdoor PTZ viewing the external of the yard. 1 indoor camera to monitor the inside of the yard.

The client have various offices, in Singapore, in the USA and Europe. The management want to be able to monitor from these various countries, so a stable remote access is needed. The Site Office (Bottom right) currently has an exisitng internet infrastructure in place already.

The most tricky part is this:
This site is on an Island about 1hr boat ride away from mainland in a neighbouring country.

My questions:
1) Which a more ideal setup? The conventional cameras using RG59 cables or Wireless IP cameras.

2) How would u quote the client given that highly likely that I'll need to bring my installers to do a site survey and maybe even my network IT partners. Since it is really a little difficult to determine a lot of factors till we actually do a ground survey.

3) How would u solve the material issue? To find a local supplier or to ship all equipment locally and ship them in? This may include the cables, galvanised iron conduits etc
Naturally, the 2nd option will give us full control over the quality but will definitely increase the overall costs by quite a bit.[/b]

[sadik007]

budget?

[sadik007]

again, budget it a key ...

I would go with IP cams, gives you more flexibility.

you have alternatives from High Power wireless antenna that could bridge island/mainland issues. You could go with Motorola Canopy ($1500 each BH model) 20km distance, or something bit chipper Nano Station ($150) about 15km. http://www.ubnt.com/nanostationm
For Motorola you also have 2 option BH-BH, or AP - many SM for each camera location. Benefit of Nano Station is you can define each unit to be BH,AP or SM. Motorola you have to get each separate unit, but then you get motorola quality, special frequency and signal encryption.

Alternatives also range from each camera having its own antenna, or connect all cams to single Switch, then one antenna back to land.

Also PTZ IP cams renage from $500 to $1500 (mobotix, Pansonic Pro and etc)

[kashov]

Hi,

I recommend you not to use wireles ipcams having in mind that this will couse you problems in the future ie more expenses.

I think you can quote without going to the spot because it is not big project and you dont need to do any special ground survey. Yoy can make the calculations by your self.


As to the connection between the Island and mainland it is ok to use nano station. They have good price and work well for this purpose.

About materials: I think is better to ship them to your self, set them up and test at your site. Then you will have not question about the installation.
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[buellwinkle]

First, consider the harsh coastal environment, you don't want any cheap as it will break in no time. Consider that a good outdoor PTZ camera will cost at least $2,000 and likely closer to $3,000 USD. Anything decent will be PoE, not WiFi, so you will have to wire them using CAT5 wire and a PoE switch and then tie that in with their router that's on the internet.

Since the internet connectivity is already place, that should be easy to view and control the cameras remotely one at a time via a web browser. If you want a more consolidated solution, you'll need a PC with NVR software or an NVR. Popular commercial ones are from Exacq, Milestone, Geovision, NUUO. For a small amount of camera, including the PC, software or NVR, you are probably looking at $2K.

So if their budget for this is about $20-25K including labor, training and of course your profit, then you are set.
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