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My NAS server really let me down today


 
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jb_bak
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: My NAS server really let me down today Reply with quote

My wife called me a few nights ago and told me she heard gunshots. Not sure what happened but lots of cop cars at neighbors house from 9PM-1AM in the morning. I thought to myself, I had a mobotix camera aiming out my driveway that direction. I'll check and see what happened! Well I just checked, and my mobotix cam says in the bottom center "server may be down", So I go check and my WD world edition NAS server is unlit, so I unplug, and replug power, lights up and makes noises. Get back into MXcontrol center and find out that the last recording was May 5th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, finally have a real need for all the thousands I spent on the setup, and nothing...........................DAMN!
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jb_bak
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's a well documented problem with the WD world edition NAS. I'm surprised mine worked this long!

http://community.wdc.com/t5/My-Book-World-Edition/WD-World-Edition-white-light-freezes-locks-up/td-p/99198
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Superzar2000
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using this for years and never had a problem. Highly recommended:

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=509
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buellwinkle
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problems here. The Mobotix cameras can automatically notify by you by email if it can't write to the NAS so that should never had happened where you unknownly lost video.
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40th Floor
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Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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Location: Texas

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A typical network-addressable storage device (NAS) is what, $200? Insert all the hands in the middle and you are buying something that may have cost $50 to build. In other words, you are buying trouble. The cheapest parts are used; the least-tested software from varied sources, with zero support from the original, are thrown together; every possible corner is cut. All this to get the price as low as it can go. Build your own PC. Buy your own parts. Get a real OS. Get real software. Or carry on with that $200 lock + screen door combo they sold you.
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buellwinkle
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's OK to use hardware that someday may fail as long as you have the alert mechanism to notify you in the event of the failure so you don't find out months later that is hasn't recorded anything and the Mobotix has that notification built into the camera.

Imagine the same thing would happen if you had a hard drive failure on an NVR and probably worse as if the hard drive fails, the unit dies without any notification.
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40th Floor
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buellwinkle wrote:
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A reall OS/software can tell you the camera died. A dead camera would be something special if it could do the same. A real OS/software is the only true way to go, for those that care. My server has been running my software 24/7/going on 1000 days (November 2009) down only for a few service packs, and a few hour-plus power outages (the OS hibernates and my software just starts right where it was, recording files where they left off before hibernating). A NAS just can't do that. A camera just can't do that.

In this case, where it all went unnoticed for so long, and only (trying) to see what happend next door/across the street, who does care? No real harm, no real foul. The guy's exasperation with "spending thousands of dollars" and getting nothing, is still no real harm.

Penny-wise, pound-foolish may not seem to apply, but it does. Don't hook up your camera to a NAS and expect more than doubling your chance of complete failure.
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