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klaymen
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Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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 Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: Software advise for Panasonic BL-C210 (Alzheimer monitoring) |
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Hi all,
I'm new in this forum and also the camera issues. My problem is the following: my mother suffers by Alzheimer (not yet too advanced) and my father suffers by cancer and will probably die within the next year. They still live in their own house, and I would like to leave it this way as long as possible. One measure I took last week was installing an IP cam to check the hallway, the main idea is to notice it should my mother suddenly leave the house (it didn't happen yet, but I know it can happen in the future). So I got the Panasonic BL-C210CE (European version of the 210A model), and I'm quite pleased with it so far, it has a very good microphone as well and this allows me to monitor the place from where I work. I also ordered an outdoor version (C140) so I can also check the area outside the house. What I like in particular is that it records pictures where movements are detected (around 2000 pictures, enough for half a day because there is not too much movement in this place). Those are stored as "buffered images". What I don't like very much is the limited access to the buffered images using webbrowser (no decent control to get a fast overview for instance, where one record starts and the other ends, it's all in one piece). And of course 2000 images is still limited, that's why an additional software I can run remotely would be nice. Most things could be done manually, but maybe there is already stuff around that can do it. Access to the buffered images would be nice (automatical download from time to time) with some way to get a fast overview, maybe there is also some way to record audio as well and/or match the recorded video with buffered images? Well I'm new in this matter, I don't know yet what all possibilities are. So I'm asking here for some recommendation.
Please note that I'm not looking for a local software, but a software that allows *remote* connection to the built-in web server of teh camera, and yes, it must also allow an SSL connection. I can't run a PC at my parents home all time long, so I look for something I can run in my office to collect data over the internet from my parent's home and don't need to rely only on the features of the camera webserver. I just tried Milestone XProtect Go and it seems it doesn't allow SSL 
I'm also looking for an iPhone app. While the browser works, an app would be easier. I tried one but was quite disappointed: it lacks SSL support (and no, I don't want to open access to the camera without decent protection), and I can't access the buffered images. Not too much hope there, but maybe there is something around?
Thanks a lot, klaymen
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buellwinkle
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Why can't you access the camera remotely via any web browser? I can get to my cameras on my iPad via Safari brower on the internet anywhere in the world. Not sure if the cameras you got have an SSL option. On my Axis camera, it has the option to generate a certificate and use SSL, but it doesn't work quite right so I turn it off. On my ACTi cams, it has no option for SSL that I could find.
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klaymen
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| buellwinkle wrote: | | Why can't you access the camera remotely via any web browser?... Not sure if the cameras you got have an SSL optio. |
Oh I can, and it offers SSL, that's not the issue. Actually currently I tend to think this suffices indeed as I can also have it e-mail me pictures when motion is detected. So maybe no additional software is required.
The main problem with this setup is that the memory in the camera is limited, so a PC conencting to it could save more, and it is not so easy to get a reasonable overview of the captured footage using the webbrowser because it is always stored in one blob and not seperated by individual motion detections. Also I can't define motion sensitive areas on the image, it always covers the full image. So maybe an additional software would give more features, and could also implement SMS alarms in addition to E-mail.
The SSL issue occurs because the Internet would be between the PC ad the cam. And the question is whether the PC software (not the cam) supports SSL. It seems Milestone doesn't support it.. I could still run it using a local sslproxy software, but that's clumsy and unreliable, I still have to find the fastest and most reliable sslproxy software for this purpose. Without it Milestone can't connect the cam. Also it seems I don't get audio, which is a pity. I will still try it out and see if it offers me more than just the camera webbrowser.
By the way, I know about the Panasonic myipcam service. But it is no option to me because using it requires deactivating the webserver of the cam. It seems to be a mutual exclusive decision whether you use the myipcam service or the webserver. This is too bad.
Klaymen
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klaymen
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:32 am Post subject: |
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I did manage ti have it run using sslproxy (http://www.obdev.at/products/ssl-proxy/index.html), but unfortunately that's not stable  It is also very clumsy, mainly if you have 2 webcams.
Then I tried it using nginx that runs on a unix box on the same LAN as the PC (so the non-SSO traffic between PC and nginx is ok), and then speaks SSL to the cameras over the internet. I used the following configuration file (the dyndns name and port are changed of course for this posting):
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worker_processes 1;
events {
worker_connections 1024;
}
http {
include mime.types;
default_type application/octet-stream;
sendfile on;
keepalive_timeout 65;
server {
listen 8888;
server_name localhost;
location / {
proxy_pass https://mycam.dnsalias.net:12345;
}
}
server {
listen 9999;
server_name localhost;
location / {
proxy_pass https://mycam.dnsalias.net:12346;
}
}
}
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Unfortunately this doesn't really work for unknown reasons, also when I connect to it using a webbrowser the mjpeg transfer only works half (broken pictures, and at some time the browser crashes). So nginx or this configuration file doesn't seem to work with multimedia streams this is sad because it would have been a nice way and it actually does solve the SSL/nonSSL problem. Maybe some of you has an idea what's wrong? Anyway, it would be so much easier if the Milestone software allowed conencting to a camera using SSL. OK, this might now be a posting for the other forum, I will start a short questin about it there as well.
What I also lack using Milestone is audio. While my panasonic webcam has a microphone, I'm unable to activate it using Milestone. Any ideas?
Thanks, Andy
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milo81
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Joined: 31 Jan 2011
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Location: Chicago
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:43 am Post subject: Hosted Surveillance Software |
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Hi Klaymen,
You can check out our hosted video surveillance platform to record the images from your camera continuously or based on motion detection.
You would not need any hardware at your parent's place - all the recordings would be available on secure cloud based servers. You can access the live video and recorded footage over a browser.We can also provide you with a blackberry application to view the IP cameras ( iphone app is on the way).
Milo
http://www.vuelogix.com
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buellwinkle
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| Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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You may want to consider an home automation solution that may help along with your cameras. The Vera 2 comes to mind. It can support IP cameras, control doors (lock and unlock remotely), control lights, thermostat, appliances, motion detectors, drape controls and other stuff.
The idea being that you can remote control the house if need be. For example, simple things like turning on a lamp when you unlock the door. Checking to make sure they didn't set the thermostat to 80F because they felt a chill for a minute. Making sure they don't leave a heating blanket on for ever.
http://www.micasaverde.com/
Also, it may pay to put tracking service on their cell phones. That way if they venture out, and hopefully took their phone with them, you can find them.
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